pappu
10-18 10:16 AM
I received a letter from BEC and it says
This Notice of Findings is the Department’s statement of its intent to deny the application.
The following reasons were attached in the document:
1. - The job opportunity has been and is clearly open to any qualified U.S worker.
The case file indicates that telephone calls were placed made to U.S. applicants but the calls failed to reach the following applicants: A,B,C (name of the applicants)
Although telephone calls were unsuccessfully places to the three U.S. applicants, no certified mailing or other attempts were made to contact the applicants. An employer must prove that its overall recruitment efforts were in good faith.
The employer may rebut this finding by:
Providing documentation that certified mail was sent to the four applicants which demonstrates the employer made the minimally acceptable effort to recruit U.S. applicants.
2. The department of labor requires that when submitting an Application for Alien Employment Certification the case file must contain two sets of original ETA 750’s Parts A and B. your case file contains only one set of original ETA750’s. The other set of 750’s in the case file are photocopies. ETA 750’s with photocopied signatures are not acceptable for processing. In order to continue processing the Application for Alien Employment Certification you must send an additional set of original ETA 750’s.
A copy of the Form ETA 750, parts A and B, have been returned in the event that any changes are necessary. The amended copies must be returned with your resubmission. Any amendments made to the ETA 750, Part A, must be initialed and dated by the employer: and any amendments made to the ETA 750, Part B, must be initialed by the alien, as appropriate.
It is the employer’s responsibility to submit the rebuttal in a timely manner directly to the certifying officer.
I got already my 7th year extension and it valid till Nov 2007. I spoke with my attorney and he seems to be positive, but he could only able to find two of the three candidates email correspondence.
Please let me know if you have faced similar situation or any suggestions. What is the possibility of my case gets approved?
sorry to hear this. There are several instances where employers have been callous or did not take adequate interest in filing the application. My experience with lawyers is also the same, especially if the lawyer is hired by the company. I would suggest members who are yet to hire an attorney to hire their own attorney instead of going with the company attorney. a company attorney will only work in the interest of the company. if you dont have a choice in this matter, then also hire your own attorney as a consultant and run each and every document by him before it is submitted to the authorities. It will keep you safe from such irregularities. Some extra money spent on having your own lawyer as a consultant is always helpful.
In your case i recommended seeking advice from multiple lawyers. submit your question to our attorney- sonal verma for the confrence call. legal advice for IV members is free in these conference calls. In future try to be on top of things wth HR with your application and be aware of all documents and proccedures instead of depending on HR and lawyers. I am sure there must be a way your situation can be sorted out. good luck.
This Notice of Findings is the Department’s statement of its intent to deny the application.
The following reasons were attached in the document:
1. - The job opportunity has been and is clearly open to any qualified U.S worker.
The case file indicates that telephone calls were placed made to U.S. applicants but the calls failed to reach the following applicants: A,B,C (name of the applicants)
Although telephone calls were unsuccessfully places to the three U.S. applicants, no certified mailing or other attempts were made to contact the applicants. An employer must prove that its overall recruitment efforts were in good faith.
The employer may rebut this finding by:
Providing documentation that certified mail was sent to the four applicants which demonstrates the employer made the minimally acceptable effort to recruit U.S. applicants.
2. The department of labor requires that when submitting an Application for Alien Employment Certification the case file must contain two sets of original ETA 750’s Parts A and B. your case file contains only one set of original ETA750’s. The other set of 750’s in the case file are photocopies. ETA 750’s with photocopied signatures are not acceptable for processing. In order to continue processing the Application for Alien Employment Certification you must send an additional set of original ETA 750’s.
A copy of the Form ETA 750, parts A and B, have been returned in the event that any changes are necessary. The amended copies must be returned with your resubmission. Any amendments made to the ETA 750, Part A, must be initialed and dated by the employer: and any amendments made to the ETA 750, Part B, must be initialed by the alien, as appropriate.
It is the employer’s responsibility to submit the rebuttal in a timely manner directly to the certifying officer.
I got already my 7th year extension and it valid till Nov 2007. I spoke with my attorney and he seems to be positive, but he could only able to find two of the three candidates email correspondence.
Please let me know if you have faced similar situation or any suggestions. What is the possibility of my case gets approved?
sorry to hear this. There are several instances where employers have been callous or did not take adequate interest in filing the application. My experience with lawyers is also the same, especially if the lawyer is hired by the company. I would suggest members who are yet to hire an attorney to hire their own attorney instead of going with the company attorney. a company attorney will only work in the interest of the company. if you dont have a choice in this matter, then also hire your own attorney as a consultant and run each and every document by him before it is submitted to the authorities. It will keep you safe from such irregularities. Some extra money spent on having your own lawyer as a consultant is always helpful.
In your case i recommended seeking advice from multiple lawyers. submit your question to our attorney- sonal verma for the confrence call. legal advice for IV members is free in these conference calls. In future try to be on top of things wth HR with your application and be aware of all documents and proccedures instead of depending on HR and lawyers. I am sure there must be a way your situation can be sorted out. good luck.
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nashim
09-03 09:01 AM
Yes, medical forms been changed. Please refer USCIS site for correct form. It is valid for one year but form should be correct.
Here are the details:
http://immigration-law.com/
07/13/2008: USCIS Changes Old Medical Form, I-693, Invalid Date from 07/14/2008 to 08/01/2008
� Medical form which the USCIS designated civil surgeon is required to use was initially revised on 04/08/2008, followed by the USCIS announcement that any I-693 form version earlier than 04/08/2008 should not be used by the civil surgens from May 1, 2008. In the middle of June, the USCIS released again new version form dated 06/05/2008 and announced that the old version other than 06/05/2008 should not be used effective 07/14/2008. July 14, 2008 is tomorrow. However, without a news release, the USCIS form site extended invalid date of forms earlier than 06/05/2008 to 08/01/2008. Please now note that "Previous editions will be accepted only for medical exams conducted before August 1, 2008. Medical exams conducted on or after August 1, 2008, require use of the 06/05/08 edition," according to the form site instruction.
� There was a confusion in June 2008 on the validity of older version form I-9 because the USCIS form site instructed that the older version was not acceptable from certain date. In Vancouver, the USCIS authority confirmed that the form instruction was an error and the USCIS form instruction has since been corrected. It will help tremendously if the USCIS releases an announcement that the current I-693 form instruction is indeed correct and the civil surgeons can use the I-693 forms which are older than 06/05/2008 version can still be used. In the meantime, the civil surgeons and the immigrants should check on the date of the medical examination with the I-693 form site to protect themselves from any changes. The form site indicates that the information was updated on June 26, 2008. One wonders whether the civil surgeons may be better off to start using the 06/05/2008 version form from even now just to avoid any confusion in the future. For the new form instruction as of today, please click here.
� There was a report one time that the USCIS was experiencing a problem in notifying all the USCIS certified civil surgeons on the form changes by email or other means because some civil surgeons did not have email addresses or proper means to receive such notices quickly. When the 2008 Tuberculosis Technical Instructions for Civil Surgeons was implemented by the Center for Disease Control and Prevension of HHS in such a notice on May 1, 2008, it could have been practically impossible for the USCIS to notify such medical form changes timely to every single USCIS certified civil surgeons. Well, doctors, you now have until August 1, 2008 to comply with the new medical form!
� This change can be important that because of the EB-2 visa number progression for the Chinese and Indians, a large number of these foreign professionals must have already scheduled or even completed a medical examination for themselves and their family members using the older versions. Under the new instruction, these medical report should be valid and filed with the I-485 coming August 2008. However, those who schedule their 485 medical examination on or after August 1, 2008 should make it sure that the doctor uses the new version dated 06/05/2008.
Here are the details:
http://immigration-law.com/
07/13/2008: USCIS Changes Old Medical Form, I-693, Invalid Date from 07/14/2008 to 08/01/2008
� Medical form which the USCIS designated civil surgeon is required to use was initially revised on 04/08/2008, followed by the USCIS announcement that any I-693 form version earlier than 04/08/2008 should not be used by the civil surgens from May 1, 2008. In the middle of June, the USCIS released again new version form dated 06/05/2008 and announced that the old version other than 06/05/2008 should not be used effective 07/14/2008. July 14, 2008 is tomorrow. However, without a news release, the USCIS form site extended invalid date of forms earlier than 06/05/2008 to 08/01/2008. Please now note that "Previous editions will be accepted only for medical exams conducted before August 1, 2008. Medical exams conducted on or after August 1, 2008, require use of the 06/05/08 edition," according to the form site instruction.
� There was a confusion in June 2008 on the validity of older version form I-9 because the USCIS form site instructed that the older version was not acceptable from certain date. In Vancouver, the USCIS authority confirmed that the form instruction was an error and the USCIS form instruction has since been corrected. It will help tremendously if the USCIS releases an announcement that the current I-693 form instruction is indeed correct and the civil surgeons can use the I-693 forms which are older than 06/05/2008 version can still be used. In the meantime, the civil surgeons and the immigrants should check on the date of the medical examination with the I-693 form site to protect themselves from any changes. The form site indicates that the information was updated on June 26, 2008. One wonders whether the civil surgeons may be better off to start using the 06/05/2008 version form from even now just to avoid any confusion in the future. For the new form instruction as of today, please click here.
� There was a report one time that the USCIS was experiencing a problem in notifying all the USCIS certified civil surgeons on the form changes by email or other means because some civil surgeons did not have email addresses or proper means to receive such notices quickly. When the 2008 Tuberculosis Technical Instructions for Civil Surgeons was implemented by the Center for Disease Control and Prevension of HHS in such a notice on May 1, 2008, it could have been practically impossible for the USCIS to notify such medical form changes timely to every single USCIS certified civil surgeons. Well, doctors, you now have until August 1, 2008 to comply with the new medical form!
� This change can be important that because of the EB-2 visa number progression for the Chinese and Indians, a large number of these foreign professionals must have already scheduled or even completed a medical examination for themselves and their family members using the older versions. Under the new instruction, these medical report should be valid and filed with the I-485 coming August 2008. However, those who schedule their 485 medical examination on or after August 1, 2008 should make it sure that the doctor uses the new version dated 06/05/2008.
Dhundhun
09-21 12:26 AM
Wow it almost sounds like attaining Nirvana (moksha). May be USCIS/DOS/DHS/Us Govt should name it as Nirvana Card.
Sometimes question might be very simple, but there could be deep meaning associated with that. I think every one in this forum understands what is the meaning of GC. So the question seemed to me of more philosophical in nature.
One of the best example of this type of question about an elephant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Men_and_an_Elephant). Almost every one knows what is an elephant, how a blind man perceives is explained in that URL.
This is like a question what is project success?
- For investor/owner, it is money
- For management, it is successful completion perhaps in time and in budget
- For engineer, it is promotion, recognition and sometimes rewards
Similarly GC stands simply for Green Card (in our context), but for different people, it can have different meaning:
- Worst case a guy gets GC just one day before marriage - forcing seperations for years
- Best case - perhaps freedom from slavery
Sometimes question might be very simple, but there could be deep meaning associated with that. I think every one in this forum understands what is the meaning of GC. So the question seemed to me of more philosophical in nature.
One of the best example of this type of question about an elephant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Men_and_an_Elephant). Almost every one knows what is an elephant, how a blind man perceives is explained in that URL.
This is like a question what is project success?
- For investor/owner, it is money
- For management, it is successful completion perhaps in time and in budget
- For engineer, it is promotion, recognition and sometimes rewards
Similarly GC stands simply for Green Card (in our context), but for different people, it can have different meaning:
- Worst case a guy gets GC just one day before marriage - forcing seperations for years
- Best case - perhaps freedom from slavery
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03-11 03:26 PM
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nissan_1
11-30 12:59 PM
Thanks for your reply guys..I have 71 points (with 16 language point). Hence I have to get at least 12 points in language skill. I think i will have to sit for IELTS..no other choice man :( But I have found in one canadian immigration forum that one guy with similiar situation replied back to canadian consulate that he studied English from school and also his work experiance is in english and he really thinks he should get 16 points. And then the embassy called him for an interview in NY and finally he got his PR. But this is just one example, everyone else ultimately took IELTS...
For me I have to fly to a different city as there is no IELTS center here...The IELTS gonna cost me some $$$ :((((
I had sent my application 3 months ago w/o IELTS and had given myself 16 points. I did write a paragraph explaining that throughout my schooling in India the medium of instruction was english and i have an American bachelors degree and have been working here.
Last month I got a letter from Buffalo asking me to submit results of IELTS exam that substantiates my assesment of 16 points. It also said that if i did not submit IELTS results they will evaluate and assess points on their own.
I am planning to take the exam, since i am border line with 70 points and can not afford to loose points. But if you have say 80-85 points, you may not take it and let them assess you whatever they want, may be 8 or even less points and you could still qualify.
For me I have to fly to a different city as there is no IELTS center here...The IELTS gonna cost me some $$$ :((((
I had sent my application 3 months ago w/o IELTS and had given myself 16 points. I did write a paragraph explaining that throughout my schooling in India the medium of instruction was english and i have an American bachelors degree and have been working here.
Last month I got a letter from Buffalo asking me to submit results of IELTS exam that substantiates my assesment of 16 points. It also said that if i did not submit IELTS results they will evaluate and assess points on their own.
I am planning to take the exam, since i am border line with 70 points and can not afford to loose points. But if you have say 80-85 points, you may not take it and let them assess you whatever they want, may be 8 or even less points and you could still qualify.
gsc999
04-15 01:54 PM
Hello, I think I made a mistake. I recently went from GC to citizenship and it cost me my job. I was
fired shortly after becoming a citizen.
abby
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Senthil for once I agree with you :D Tell me who moved my Cheese!
abby: GC to citizenship, lost job eh!
US law doesn't permit discrimination in employment based on race or Country of origin.
There are many websites that advertise jobs in India, depending on your situation and goals. Send me a PM with your resume and phone number, I will try getting you a job in India. Average pay scale is thousand dollars/mo and commute time in 3 hours. I am sure, those are non factors because you so sincerely desire this.
Also, I would recommend taking a break from this all and think about your future plans. I am not sure how young you are, there is a call for surge in Iraq for our troops. It is perfect time for a citizen to show his patriotism. I heard sign-up bonus is amazing :-) I was planning to volunteer, they refused me because I am a prospective legal immigrant. I want to contribute but can't, I feel bad.
fired shortly after becoming a citizen.
abby
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Senthil for once I agree with you :D Tell me who moved my Cheese!
abby: GC to citizenship, lost job eh!
US law doesn't permit discrimination in employment based on race or Country of origin.
There are many websites that advertise jobs in India, depending on your situation and goals. Send me a PM with your resume and phone number, I will try getting you a job in India. Average pay scale is thousand dollars/mo and commute time in 3 hours. I am sure, those are non factors because you so sincerely desire this.
Also, I would recommend taking a break from this all and think about your future plans. I am not sure how young you are, there is a call for surge in Iraq for our troops. It is perfect time for a citizen to show his patriotism. I heard sign-up bonus is amazing :-) I was planning to volunteer, they refused me because I am a prospective legal immigrant. I want to contribute but can't, I feel bad.
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Beta_mle
02-21 09:23 AM
And, my last point, out of status rule applies ONLY to applicants 17 years or older. so your son is ok.
In short, aal izz well.
_______________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
Thanks Desi. That helps peace of mind. Do you have a link to the regulation concerning out of status applying only to applicants 17 and older?
In short, aal izz well.
_______________________
Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
Thanks Desi. That helps peace of mind. Do you have a link to the regulation concerning out of status applying only to applicants 17 and older?
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galacticman
03-06 07:30 PM
Thanks coopheal. Seems like they are still working on the 1st week itself. Hopefully I should see mine come around soon for preadjudication!
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samrat_bhargava_vihari
06-25 03:50 PM
Why he sent before date?
Guru's Is it right that after filling 485, USCIS will process application according to PD(2003,2004,2005 like that) ?
or USCIS will process application with the date 485 application received?
or i am missing something over here.
Thanks
They will process applications based on receipt date. But approval will happen only if your PD is current. That means if
CASE A with PD 2003
CASE B with PD 2005
CASE C with PD 2007
Say all file in July and if dates gets retrogess some time in OCT or before to 2006.
Say for CASE A and CASE C all process is done( name check,... every thing but not approval) and CASE B is stuck in name check.
then CASE A will be approved because A process is complete and PD is current
CASE B will be pending waiting to clear name check though the PD is current
Once name check done and PD is current this will approve.
CASE C will not be approved though processing is complete PD is not current
once PD become current CASE C will approve.
This is just example to explain how it works.
Guru's Is it right that after filling 485, USCIS will process application according to PD(2003,2004,2005 like that) ?
or USCIS will process application with the date 485 application received?
or i am missing something over here.
Thanks
They will process applications based on receipt date. But approval will happen only if your PD is current. That means if
CASE A with PD 2003
CASE B with PD 2005
CASE C with PD 2007
Say all file in July and if dates gets retrogess some time in OCT or before to 2006.
Say for CASE A and CASE C all process is done( name check,... every thing but not approval) and CASE B is stuck in name check.
then CASE A will be approved because A process is complete and PD is current
CASE B will be pending waiting to clear name check though the PD is current
Once name check done and PD is current this will approve.
CASE C will not be approved though processing is complete PD is not current
once PD become current CASE C will approve.
This is just example to explain how it works.
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10-03 06:46 PM
The latest one I see is 07/28/2007
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12-10 02:53 PM
Please consider contributing IV...IV need your help to resolve our immigration problems.
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07-08 01:56 PM
Thanks a lot for posting!
Please post the URL, always, if I may add.
http://www.immigration-law.com/
It's right on the home page.
Please post the URL, always, if I may add.
http://www.immigration-law.com/
It's right on the home page.
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Libra
10-24 10:08 AM
yeah it took almost a year to send an RFE that too after repeated calls to CIS.
Libra,
Congrats!!! Did it take an year for the RFE itself???
Romesh and naresh,
Any updates?
thanks,
Sampath
Libra,
Congrats!!! Did it take an year for the RFE itself???
Romesh and naresh,
Any updates?
thanks,
Sampath
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anemmani
01-22 09:34 AM
Why should we fight about every issue that is posted? Cant we debate it like mature people? This tendency to fight (and get emotional) over irrelevant issues will not help us any better.
Most of us in this immigration thread are academically oriented. And I believe that this can be attributed to the way in which we were molded in our early life. Most of our parents would stress academic excellence over athletic and artistic abilities. They made all our choices all the way to college and maybe beyond. They would always trump every argument with the statement, "We know what is best for you."
That said, I think the comparison between western and eastern parenting in US is not completely fair. The section of Indians & Chinese immigrants in US are educated and were probably at the top of their classes in their respective countries. They excelled academically and it helped them (us) immigrate and be part of the successful strata of this country. We cannot compare these immigrants with the Western population as a whole. We should compare eastern and western parenting techniques among parents with similar backgrounds.
Successful American families produce successful kids. This is also true for families of all races. Each set of parents have their own method.
Getting greencard is not everything. We have lives beyond the greencard. We have (or will have) kids and have a responsibility towards raising them to give them the best possible skills (academic, artistic & social) to thrive in their lives. And a mature discussion in parenting methods is useful.
I urge everyone of you to make your arguments and highlight relative merits & de-merits. You may also argue whether this discussion has merit or not. But no name calling.
Nag
Most of us in this immigration thread are academically oriented. And I believe that this can be attributed to the way in which we were molded in our early life. Most of our parents would stress academic excellence over athletic and artistic abilities. They made all our choices all the way to college and maybe beyond. They would always trump every argument with the statement, "We know what is best for you."
That said, I think the comparison between western and eastern parenting in US is not completely fair. The section of Indians & Chinese immigrants in US are educated and were probably at the top of their classes in their respective countries. They excelled academically and it helped them (us) immigrate and be part of the successful strata of this country. We cannot compare these immigrants with the Western population as a whole. We should compare eastern and western parenting techniques among parents with similar backgrounds.
Successful American families produce successful kids. This is also true for families of all races. Each set of parents have their own method.
Getting greencard is not everything. We have lives beyond the greencard. We have (or will have) kids and have a responsibility towards raising them to give them the best possible skills (academic, artistic & social) to thrive in their lives. And a mature discussion in parenting methods is useful.
I urge everyone of you to make your arguments and highlight relative merits & de-merits. You may also argue whether this discussion has merit or not. But no name calling.
Nag
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May 23rd, 2005, 08:43 PM
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gjoe
10-05 12:04 PM
Because his RD is before yours. When a PD is current , GC is isssued based on RD.So if your PD is May 2002, but RD is July 2007. and another guys PD is May 2004 but his RD is June 2007...The other guy will get GC first.
In july uscis assigned visa numbers to variious cases with older RD regardless of PD.Hence, you will see approvals in the coming month, inspite of the fact that their PD is not current.
For no fault of mine why should I suffer? I didn't file in July2007 because I didn't want to do it earlier. It was USCIS fault for not being able to come up the correct cuoff dates and DOL's problem in approving Labor certs with two different systems.
I think bad managment affecting your life is a good reason for sueing for damage
In july uscis assigned visa numbers to variious cases with older RD regardless of PD.Hence, you will see approvals in the coming month, inspite of the fact that their PD is not current.
For no fault of mine why should I suffer? I didn't file in July2007 because I didn't want to do it earlier. It was USCIS fault for not being able to come up the correct cuoff dates and DOL's problem in approving Labor certs with two different systems.
I think bad managment affecting your life is a good reason for sueing for damage
leoindiano
08-04 04:23 PM
call USCIS and ask them about the problem. If you get a good IO, they will open a ticket to consolidate. Try until, you get someone who sounds knowledgeable. Then take a infopass at your local office after a week to see if that helps any. I did that and took a infopass for this friday to check at local office. My PD is nov 2004. I will keep you posted.
senthil
06-12 05:33 AM
just the H1B filing receipt ( which is expected in few days of filin ) should be enough to be named "active" on H1B and no worry after that except finding an active project to work on.
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